Are the Clintons my two sisters?

John Bjarne Grover

The bizarre idea which emerges from some of the data is that the Clintons should be my two sisters - Vibeke Gröver born on 25 november 1955 would then have been Bill Clinton rebuilt in probably 1975 while she officially was at the Steiner institution Camphill at Aberdeen (and 'Steiner' could then mean that my testicles were replaced by others while 'Bill Clinton' got mine in the gender change), and Tone Helene Gröver born on 23 february 1961 (cp. Betancourt of 2002) would then have been rebuilt to Hillary Clinton in the year (some time in the eighties) when she was in Nicaragua to study the revolution there. Vibeke Gröver came home with Nick who read Anais Nin (who arguable is a little similar to Chelsea Clinton) - it is something but nothing in itself, of course. Nick went back to England after Vibeke had become pregnant with Camilla who was born in 1977, if I remember right.

It would have been copies who came home from these periods abroad if the theory should be interesting. I did not notice any particular change but noticed perhaps a certain characteristic breath sound of Vibekes in the car home from the ferry whereto we had gone to meet them. I have always believed that these were the same people after their return.

Why should it be interesting? It would have to be by the idea that e.g. granduncle Aron Eidsvig could have been Adolf Hitler after the war, and that the death camp program of Himmler served to index the family in Labråten with one camp to each (see the ABC for details). Sobibor would then have been for Vibeke Gröver and Belcez would have been for Tone Gröver - while Treblinka would have been for me. It would have been only one major death camp which did not index the family and that would have been Chelmno nad Nerem - which was opened the day after or before a birthday of Chomsky - and that could perhaps suggest some link to the Peterskirche in Vienna with its crypt.

The whole death camp program could then have been for continueing the Hitler revolution after the war - that is the revolution of the international secret services, assigning meaning and value to people by their indexes, such as me in Zinckgasse and things like that. The purpose - if the two sisters were to be very powerful in the angloamerican politics - would then have been to abuse me for the Treblinka link from Hungary to Austria driving historic 'impetus' across the border by 'peristaltic' impulses which pump 'historic value' into Vienna.

Is it as naive as that - that Vienna or Wien = VII-[h]en-ry? Henry VIII and Henry Kimle? The split of England from the Vatican, hence the Octogon at Öttevény? As the article 'a másik oldalon' could suggest, it is not impossible that the global structure tells of USA as being in the role of those who are not entirely right (suffering from bad consciene due to the indian pogroms) and leaving to England to be the ultimate justification for whom everything is running. That does not need to mean that England is the constructor of the whole thing - it rather could mean that international secret service has its main historic locus there and can harvest their powers when England is right in the last analysis. The Clintons as my official sisters would then serve to tell that the international secret services have enough power to put their representative up as president of USA - even if the identity which should be the proof of this would have been dubious, so to speak.

This is the theory which could call for justification to the question whether the Clintons are my sisters - otherwise the theory would seem just irrelevant. Could be it is in any case.

There are the two stories which perhaps could serve to identify the Clintons as my sisters:

1) The one on Bill Clinton would have its rooting in the event in Molde when I was trying to read a book and Vibeke Gröver was teasing me with a guitar which she swung back and forth in the air in front of my eyes, before my face and the book (hence 'Facebook'?), while humming the traditional mock tune. I lost my temper and ran after her and hit my fist in her back - she started yelling that she had been hit - "han drusa til meg" - and called for sympathies and justification. The mother came running to negotiate a peace deal. This is the only act of violence of that physical type in my life - and I could perhaps add the event when the daughter of Jette Råboe Larsen was yelling too much in the early morning (she could of course be right - that I should not have been there, or that there was a water leak at Rekustad) and I shook her arms and said 'be silent'. There was the story with Brunerie Maxime who had hid a gun in a guitar box in Paris in 2002 and shot after president Chirac who stood in an open car on the day of the Bastille celebration. There was also the event with mayor Bertrand Delanoe who was stabbed by Assedine Berkan on a Paris night salon event. (I received ASSEDIC money support - nearly 300 euros per month - when I was in Paris in 2002). Clearly the 'guitar box' and the 'arms shake' would not be enough to identify me as a terrorist - but could the Paris events have suggested something like 'O-loves' - the one and his 'komper'? A 'komper' can also be one who plays the background to a soloist - such as e.g. 'a political bassist'. My appliction for political asylum in France was rejected in the summer 2002. 'Rejected on a political basis[t]'?

If that should have been the story, I had no chance to guess it then, in 2002, but today I can see that - if this were the 'meaning' of the attacks on mayor and president - it could mean that 1) there was perhaps a basis for an asylum, but 2) the historic background was too heavy - if e.g. the whole Hitler period was about making it - to admit the reason for an accept of the application officially. I got a pension in the end of the year. France had let an italian terrorist live in France throughout quite a number of years without arresting him - soon after I had got my rejection he was arrested and extradited (utlever/út-Levél?) to Italy where he served some years in prison before he was released just before the next presidential election in France. Could it mean that it would be too humuliating for the White House if France had accepted my application?

I saw a photo on the internet of a russian 'Starbuck' cafe which made me wonder by the russian spelling if it really could be about a 'Gtarbox'.

However, the strongest 'evidence' for the theory would be in the phenomenon of the 'Literaturhaus' in Vienna with its strong references to the 'potato balls' and 'o-love's KUMPEr' - in which case the 'Literaturhaus' perhaps could have been about a 'gitteraturhals', a 'gitarbox'.

2) The one on Hillary Clinton would have been an event with Tone Gröver in the garden in Labråten - she had got the female dog 'Mira' (an alsatian) who was not so very old then and came running across the lawn and Tone Gröver received it in arms and said affectionately "lilla huet!" - 'little head'! 'small head!' - 'lilla' which could be either 'swedish' for 'little' or norwegian for 'lilac' - in norwegian 'little' would be 'lille'. Ragna Gröver stood nearby and I think she threw a glance over on me. Clearly one should not report eavesdropping but it could be that the circumstances would allow for it: It happened one day in probably the 80's that I suddenly heard Tone Gröver's voice through the wall in Labråten, saying in very swedish tone apparently to herself: "Jag fattar inte hur det är möjligt...!" = 'I cannot understand how it is possible...!'.

'Jag fittar - hodet er möy-lig' = 'I vagina - the head is female'. 'Hodet er böylig' = 'the head is bendable', as for the austro-hungarian matrix on infant head opening. Lebény Mosonszentmiklos.

Eavesdropping isnt so good, in particular if it is reported on such as here. Could be there is a corresponding story on me - that she had eavesdropped me correspondingly. There is the story with Gröver/'Mengele' taking me for a walk in october 1970 - and there must have been a reason of upbringing purposes, I would have guessed - we walked from Kongensgate 8 in Fredrikstad down Colbjörnsensgate untill we came to the intersection with Nygata where there was a traffic island with yellow roses and he commented on this with 'gule roser i oktober' that it sounds like the title of a crime novel ('kriminalroman'). My guess today is that this could have been in the end of october, could be around 25 october, and that this was a year before I 'tasted the first expression of my maturing sexuality' around 25 october 1971 (when a 'gifted violinist' could have been born - 'ny-födt') and had to go to the bathroom and the sink there. As far as I remember it could have been around that time - although I do not remember the date with any precision at all. Autumn 1971 is a good guess, I think. It is of course possible that Tone Gröver had eavesdropped this bathroom door opening accordingly. It is the apparent presence of 'Colbjörnsensgate' = 'cold bear-sons street' in the current media world which called forth this to my attention again. A mási kold-dal-on? Clearly it seems that the Hitler revolution has the total control with all creative aspects of the human mind on their agenda, including the poetic expressions of the red metre. But to believe that my red metre work was under the index control of Gröver/'Mengele' and the 'services' is ridiculous. However, there could be a vague link to 'eavesdropping' in that story.

'Eves-dropping' in the sense of 'homo' is a disgusting strategy on me - if that is what the 'services' are into. 'Eve-stropping' could be that strategy on the 'funny bra' turning backwards - of Mosonmagyarovar and the railway line to Györ etc.

Is there any presence of the 'eavesdropped' swedish line around? There is the PHI BETA KAPPA and hence 'jag PHITAr - hodet er möyligt/böyligt' etc. (What was the impeachment about, really?)

In addition, prostitution has been legalized in Austria. I dont know if it really is legalized or if it is only a law which serves to de-criminalize those who have been prostitutes. But it seems 'möyligt' by the law.

In short, there are some such 'cues' around to the idea that the Clintons should be my two official sisters and that these would have been replaced with copies in Norway. However, that does not really mean much more than the idea that the nazi death camp program indexes the family in Labråten and that it could be tempting for a political party to harvest some power therefrom by pretending that a couple for the White House would have been my sisters - and the world of international secret service would have been happy to add fuel to these ideas by way of terror such as the one which seems to index the 'Literaturhaus' - Banda Aceh, Bam, Sendai indexing my authorship - those are massive earthquakes and if they could be made by bombs they could have lent more power to the 'international nazi services'. 'Mase' is translated in my dictionary with 'be persistent' in the call for something. For example, if somebody has borrowed something from you, you could 'be persistent' in the calls for getting it back, to no avail, it is not returned, and hence 'a mase called-the loan' etc. That is the Hitler revolution - to have this in the indexes.

In short, it is fully possible that the idea of Clinton as my sisters is more or less identically the same as the 'international secret nazi services' (who also constructed the holocaust, that means) being out for more power as soon as there was a democrat president in the White House - on basis of the indexation of the Labråten family in the nazi death camp structure.

I am very tired of such 'Eves-dropping' strategies. Vienna should not let the 'services' (whoever that could be) give the label of HOMO to the country or the town. Could there be anything more nauseating?

I notice that 'inngrep i tanker' = 'in-grip in thoughts' could be the background of Ingrid Betancourt on 23 february 2002 (Tone Gröver's 41st birthday) for precisely the reason of such 'eavesdropping'. If there were a laser beam hitting my cortex in the left hand region, nearly paralyzing my left hand, it could have been that hand that gripped around the door handle to the bathroom in probably late 1971. A paralysis of my hand - e.g. by a laser beam - could then mean that 'the handle fell off', as seems to be a part of the construction of nazism. (The scan I got of my brain a few years ago suggests that there has been a local brainstroke around the area of the left hand and this could probably - I guess - have been made by sophisticated laser beam technology). Tone Gröver was born 9 months and 1 day after the world's biggest earthquake - at Concepzion in Chile - which, if this quake at 'Concepzion' meant that they had succeeded in getting fertile material out of me at age 3, with arrest of 'Adolf Eichmann' announced for Knesset a few hours before the giant quake, and possibly even the Cuban Missile Crisis of Kennedy serving to tell how they got the material out of me 'on the other side', the birth 9 months and 1 day later probably meant just that she could in theory have been my daughter but is it not. The issue - on the background of the theory on the Clintons - would mean whether Hillary Clinton could be my daughter or not. She is not, says the birthday - and Tone Gröver's hair is of the type that can be seen on Peloponnes. It is the same as with the Kursk and Cole - when 'Kursk' was in the mirror image to the Madonna in Lourdes around the birth of Ragna Gröver - plus one day. The 'Kursk-and-Cole' could thereby even be seen to index the two Clintons - even by 'a mási Cole-dalon' - with Masi not so far from Murmansk. A Kursk-and-Cole-and-Borten? It is a little puzzling that Hillary Clinton in fact - as it seems to me - seems to be a little similar to Ragna Gröver, but clearly even this could of course be only a matter of 'gaining power' for the democrat party by the shady resources which history can provide.

I do not support the Labråten family as a political resource and the whole story - if it is more than airy theories - is of course a big problem for me. I am trying to get out of these problems but the world seems to be quite 'Hitler' after WWII and it is my impression that national 'services' to some extent try to harvest power for themselves by way of these things. Please stop the abuse of my person. It would be particularly unfortunate if e.g. Chelsea Clinton plans to go for a politial career and the 'services' plan to lift the role of my person (including e.g. 'red metre' poetry or even the blue?) over onto her - by 'a Kursk-and-Cole-and-Borten' - thereby attempting to prove that the jewish-genetic inheritance is the same as the 'nazi power' of the international secret services. That would be a very bad reason for keeping my authorship off from the public attention - 'on the other side'.



Added on 7 june 2015:

Of course one sees how this really could be about Francois, Celan's first son who died after only 30 hours due to the heavy impact from birth tongs = 'jag PHITAr - hodet er möyligt/böyligt', and Celan's book "Von Schwelle zu Schwelle" - as well as the phenomenon of german syntax with the finite verbs 're-jected' to the final position 'on a political basis'. If so, one could also be allowed to wonder whether the political bassis[t] is relevant to my postal connections. The question is of course also how Francois' death could have been conceived relative to me - and other characters of a potential political role.





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