Chinese poetry and western politics

John Bjarne Grover

It seems that the constructed myths of the angloamerican western world is doing mainly one thing: To try and battle China by way of a heavy smear campaign on classic chinese poetry. This seems also to be the purpose with the program on the intellectuals, including the dimaggios. The strategy is very simple: It is to build large programs of more or less low moral value on basis of the fine details in the old poems and thereby they hope to create the idea that the foundations of chinese culture is of low moral value.

One example could be the Kennedy era based on "The Sound of Music" (cp. also the name of 'Skundberg'?) as a loose plagiarism of Grassmann's "Ausdehnungslehre". The western political program in the wake of 'the sound of music' could be to try and show that classic chinese culture is 'the scum of the earth'? See the first scenes of the film - Julie Andrews with 'bowl' hairdo invoking associations to the exposed brains of an opened child onto which a masturbator can send a 'Saltspurt' of semen. She should (in the film) have been in the monastery, reading the Bible, but she is once again out running in the fields and sings the song which could to be directly inspired from line 2 of Tu Fu's poem which I translate as follows (for the sake of making some aspects more clear - the following translations do not really aim at a literary level):

A river's blue green and a bird's reacting white:
The hills are alive with the sound of music!
Life of today sees once again its motion [picture] start           Leif?
the day it's right to turn another page.                                     a Bible page?

(It must be admitted that the end of the second line is closer to 'the bursting buds', such as the 'Rosebud's or Karin Boye's 'tveka', but a closer analysis can take it to 'sound of music' if one wants). The 'Ausdehnungslehre' which seems to be at the bottom of the film can be spotted in the first line. See also the front page of the film - Andrews motion-turning around in 'dirndl' outfit which upside down looks like the 'philosopher' piece of recursive matter as well as the 'lioness' in the upside-down view to Tiepolo's 'Flora' painting.

A political program on this poem could possibly have included the Vietnam war and much else of dubious nature. The Vietnam war was not good - it was bad - and hence the longterm naive conclusion could be supposed to be that "chinese poetry is not good - it is bad".

Another example can be Wang Wei's "Two yellow orioles":

Two yellow orioles sing in the light green willow.
The first of these is clearly a heron turning blue-green day/spring/above.
The window contains a western mountain range in autumn snow.
The gate-door links/moors the Österreich of the very inner/home/neighbour ship.

If this is the reason for the role of Austria in the mythos program, I dont know - I suppose it could in principle be. The word means the 'eastern Reich' Wu as one of the Drei Reiche period. The snowcovered 'mountain range' is called 'fjellheim' in norwegian language - in chinese it is the word 'ling' which is composed of the sign for 'mountain' and the sign for german '500 ungefaltete Bogen Papier'. The question remains open whether this means 500 banknotes or other sorts of unfolded paper.

There was some terror on the Tiananmen square some time ago. The word 'Tiananmen' is composed of three signs: The first TIAN is the last on the second line, looking like an Eiffel tower, the third MEN is the first on the fourth line, looking like a doorway, while the second is a sign AN which looks like the Eiffel tower after it has been hit by a bomb. This could link the form of the signs for 'Tiananmen' to the death of princess Diana ('Lady Di') carcrashing into one of the gatepoles in the subway just a few metres from the Eiffel tower in Paris. However, in the poem it is not AN in the middle but the mid sign LING - which is that same 'mountain range'. If that should mean me, it would mean to turn the gender around ('homo' etc). However, I am but I have observed some possibly political things which could be about 'homo' or 'turning gender'.

The three signs on line 3 ending with this LING are 'han-xi-ling'. 'Han' means 'to have something in the mouth', 'to contain', 'to care for' = 'Pflege'. Hence the three signs can mean the mix 'Pflege-cei-ling' which could mean 'Pflegeheim'. (There is a big 'Pflegeheim' under construction up the street where the Elizabethspital used to be formerly - could be it will be able to take 500 tenants or thereabout?) My PO Box is called "Pf.15" - compare this 'PF-lege-siling'. The 'siling' can mean a syringe of injection, the word 'lege' is norwegian for 'doctor'. It is of course possible to see the current IS movement in relation to this "Pf.15" - as 'PF.IS' in which case the interpretation of the 'Islamic State' is the doctor holding a syringe in the hand. Containing chemicals. But of course that is not much more than the number '15' which can be found in many places.

The 'Pflege-ceiling' could perhaps also be associated with the HATTAN (recursive matter) of MAN-HATTAN (in two pieces of recursive matter), while the gatedoor handle which moors it to the Österreich could be the wickerwork gate (recursive matter - also with Manhattan map symbolism) with the handle on it. Indira Gandhi was shot by a wickerwork gate.

If it is the case that these chinese poets be installed into 'programs' of such kind, the western world seems to be running a 'smear campaign' on the best of chinese poetry. What a bad strategy. There can be nothing but envy and bad plans behind it.

Another poem of Wang Wei ('Castle/palace/temple tree path') seems also linked to this movement of e.g. a car sweeping down the subway towards a gatepole such as the one close to the Eiffel tower:

Palace tree balk

Narrow path [or: Meagre means], cool palace (temple) tree,
underworld deep in much green moss,
meets the door when sweeping down,
balks to let hill buddhist monk climb up.

which could be seen in the 'Castello' or 'Ostello' theme. The BALK seems to be a key word. It is also called 'to balk' when a person up on a hill signals to a fishing boat in the sea the movements of the shadows of shoals of pilchards and herrings in the sea. The word has an interesting range of associations which is retained quite well in the chinese forms MO (in the title) and WEI (line 4). Here the mountains (the hills are alive!) are in the form SHAN in the last line, following the MEN = gateway, door in the third line. Sweeping down the 'moss' at the Eiffel tower - means 'homo' or 'gender swap'? Trans? The tree of the title is called HUAI which really means a japanese 'Schnurbaum', whatever sort of tree that is. The word seems to be asssociated with the sign for bosom (Bust, Busen) or lap (Schoß) - a sort of 'public toilet graffiti'? The 'castle' can also mean 'uterus' - and to reach the mouth or gatepole of that one it is necessary to sweep down the 'moss' - to reach that BALK. Was this the Kosovo bombing campaign - to create the 'mafia idea' that the body of a person is 'the same' as a house or a geographic region? It must be understood that the bad ideas seem to be more western than eastern. The church is (as far as I have understood) considered the body of Christ in christian theology - on a line with the host of the communion. If that means that the 'politics' is blasphemic, I dont know. That wouldnt make it better.

Ah, the western world seems to be suffering under this strange political program - apparently to be as bad as possible when imitating chinese poetry in the hope that the world shall believe that the chinese poetry is bad.

Could be it is smear on chinese language and script generally. The word for (traditional chinese) MUSIC NOTATION is 'gongchepu', which in chinese script looks like 'IRA'. There is the story of Ragna Gröver falling down on her ski (which tilted and went 90 degrees between her buttocks) in the late 60's in a way which perhaps could be seen as related to the deaths of Adorno, Celan and Szondi - who had been to mountain range Sils Maria along with Bollack a decade earlier. There is also the movement 'Qi Gong', cp. 'gong che pu' and norwegian 'gĺing ski pĺ' = 'going ski on'. I worked for NMI (of the state) 'Norsk Musikk Informasjon' when I was engaged by the MUSIKUS program at the university of Oslo for participating in the attempted construction of an automated music editor. My first meeting with the work group was in january 1987.

Do you think IRA was planned in 1919 for the same purposes? Probably not. There is a norwegian football club called Djerv 1919 = Brave 1919 (Bjarne John? James Bond?). But clearly it could have been the other way round - that somebody had seen this 'IRA' in the chinese dictionary and made the intrigue thereon.

There is the chinese word ZHE which partly means a demonstrative pronoun (this, that, german 'dies' - 'diesen' in accusative), partly it can mean an aspectual particle denoting the grammatical ASPECT in the relation between something inner and something outer - seen from inside the subject of the event or from outside. However, the two forms of ZHE differ in terms of a difference in toneme.

I recognize this difference and similarity in the 'möbius strip' form of my book 'Kinderhilfe', the fourth part entitled 'ROP' which can mean german 'RUF' (not the same as english 'roof' = 'ceiling'), english SHOUT, or perhaps the ROPE which twists one way. There are two uses of it in two poems of Wang Wei I would like to point to - in a double use of the concept of FAMILY HOUSE - the idea of a house containing a family or household or people related in some way or other - such as genetically related parents and children and siblings, or maybe people sharing other forms of conditions of life.

I recognize the ASPECTual particle in the socalled 'dogs paradox' I have described in my 'Poetic semiosis' - that is a paradox of aspectual type being of apparently very essential function in much poetry. It can be spotted eminently in Wang Wei's poem 'Mčng chéng ŕo' which I translate tentatively as follows:

The elder brother's fence connection

The new family house at the city wall's gate
and the old tree [standing] outside, the [superabundant] weeping willow,
balance their double presence as they're resting on the fate
of hollow (= deep) sorrow's and a past man's presence below.

Could be Wang would rotate in his grave about the rhyme - like a twisted underearth rope. For another interesting example, see for example Ungaretti's "Sentimento del tempo" ('Zeitgefühl') of 1931.

Another use of this 'family house' word JIŔ can be found in Wang's poem 'Nán chá' which I translate as follows:

Southern wonder

A little boat is travelling far asouth
while north wonders far rise and hardly mean:
(Pen) Nib broadly splits, shouts shouts a family house.
Far far away they know each other not.

The 'family house' can be seen as represented in the two pieces of recursive matter that is considered the essence of the MAN-HATTAN - as long as these know each other not, things go well. It is the RUF, the SHOUT of the SOUTH when the Charles' wain travels south on water and the northern CROSS extends (like an Eiffel tower?) over the firmament. One of the meanings of SHOUT is the sign 'REN' for PERSON - it looks like a splitting pen nib - while the other is totally different. WANG REN is in this poem the mystery of this recursive and möbius-turning ROP.

These differences can be seen to be related to the ones of the 'intensive und extensive Grösse' of Grassmann - in 'Sound of Music' it could be about inside or outside the monastery.

It is very possible that the dimaggio phenomenon (if, that is, it exists) among the intellectuals of potential or alleged genetic relation can be seen to serve this purpose of splitting (divide-and-conquer) the 'family house' for retaining them apart 'in order to avoid terrorism' - the terror which arises when the HATTAN is put on or near the MAN. But it is possible that contact nevertheless could be permitted within a family house.

However, whether putting the one part of the pair of pieces together with the other really leads to terrorism elsewhere, or if this is just some idea which has been made up for the political intrigue, I dont know. (I have no good data to support this idea).

The 'möbius' turning twice before it returns to the original state could be contained in what could be a general (american?) stategy of abuse of e.g. minors - such as anal rape of children in order to intrude into the chinese grammatical ASPECT - for the idea that the child abuser will intrude into the child on one day and when the möbius turns around he will tremble his accusing finger towards the genetic father of the child, accusing him of the abuse as the other side of the möbius strip - thereby instantiating 1) the intrusion into the ASPECTual category of the chinese language as well as 2) the accusative or demonstrative orientation on the second round - both of them the particle ZHE but with a different toneme. This could have been planned as a general political strategy - abusing children (or innocents) in other countries and then accusing their (genetic) parents of the terror. Cp. the situation in e.g. Syria. Such an abuse of children could be coupled with the idea that the house is the body - for a more or less blasphemous (I dont know how it would count) politics. What would it be for? Apparently for the one and only eventual conclusion that this is BAD POLITICS - in order to generate the future idea that CHINESE CULTURE IS BAD. Because these things are installed into the best of chinese poetry.

How ridiculous!

It is well possible that the troubles of my life are summed up in the equally ridiculous idea of me being heir to the british throne. This could be the reason for the apparently extensive illegal tapping of work from my workspace for the 'security' of the future heir. There was an ad campaign up recently in Vienna which seemed to be constructed on the formula 'FISKEN I VANNET' (the fish in the water, about somebody thriving very well in his or her circumstances) which superfluously could be seen as an 'important message' communicated to the heir to the throne (me) while the real factual contents of it communicated to the public could be that 'the penis is a little shortened' - that is, that Grover is Forster which could be for turning the 'accusative' on the second möbius round against me.

I have never been told a word about me being 'heir to the throne' - I have guessed, though, in recent years that the idea could be that Ragna Gröver in principle could count as heir to the throne (I have no real reason to believe so, though), which of course does not concern me much if Sachs is my genetic - jewish-genetic, that is - mother - cp. the möbius. My life and career excludes the idea in any case. Nor have I ever been informed about any possible surveillance of my life and work. If there is surveillance of my work and this is spread to the media, they have never asked me. I asked the houseletter when I moved in here and got the keys: "Is there surveillance of the flat?" The answer was "No. Do you want it?" I said "No, I do not want surveillance of the flat".

My view is that all this apparent smear campaign of the chinese culture and history should be brought to an end and the british monarchy should be closed down and the country be turned into a republic without state church.

It is possible that the turning 'möbius' of this type is a sort of 'rope' or 'axle' in a 'driving motor' for US and other foreign policies stretching its wires under the fences of international borders. It could perhaps be called a 'syzygic' strategy?

In my case it seems - as is the impression I sometimes have got - that the better my work the worse the rejection. That could be for making such a 'möbius motor' go. This clearly is a very wrong development. 'Heir to the throne' is not so interesting then.

It is like the preacher whose gospel is divine love and forgiveness at day and orgies and sex murders at night, for making a 'go' for his church, or the state which conducts terror with the left hand and condemns terror with the right. It is perhaps summed up in the formula Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde. It must be considered 'not reliable' politics.

I do not support that sort of politics.




Added the day after, on 1 (and 2) february 2015:

I add the story from 1970-74: The Gröver family - having arrived in Fredrikstad in the summer 1970 - first looked at a site for building a house in Oredalsĺsen but did not take it because of some high voltage lines ('höyspentledning') going over it. "The longterm effect is not safe" was the reason. The word 'höyspentledning' resembles somewhat the street address of 'Geitmyrsveien' ('yeit-') where there is a student home for female students in Oslo.

The names of two female friends of mine from about 40 years ago - high school times - both of whom also lived in this house in Geitmyrsveien - can be spotted in the signs at the end of line 1 and the beginning of line 3 in Wang Wei's 'Southern Wonder'. I suppose these are born to their names like I am - could be even for this particular poem of Wang Wei? The sign for 'gé' has a radical to its left looking like a german 'SS' - the symbol 'ß'. This was introduced as radical #27 (leftside) in chinese in the system with some 188 radicals since about 1945 - a system used in many modern dictionaries, probably mainly translating from one language to another. There is also the same radical ß as #28 when on the righthand side - this likewise introduced for the 188 system. 28 is about 15% of 188 - I pay 15% withhold tax of my pension since 2010. It is fully possible to see the Donbas conflict in Ukraine as being about the establishment of this 'new SS' radical - and to see the name of nazi chief Odilo Globocnik as being about just this sign for 'gé' but with the SS on the right and not on the left side. As such, Odilo Globocnik could have been a responsibility clain on the current Donbas conflict which broke out just a few days before 2 may 2014. (There exists also a prewar pamphlet called 'Nature's Melody' by a J.Grover in British Library). Anne Sexton and Sylvia Plath were both from Boston. It is therefore fully possible that the Donbas conflict and 'projects' associated with this poem could be old security projects from the nazis - the modern national secret mafia intelligence services with their international networks. The austrian 'Staatsvertrag' from 1955 has an article 10 telling that the state is 'obliged to liquidate the leftovers of nazism' ("Österreich verpflichtet sich [...] auf die Liquidierung der Überreste des Naziregimes") - as a condition for the independence of the state. Why hasnt somebody told the people about this? I suppose Janukovitch would not have had to flee he country if he had told the people what the real purposes were. The politicians have not even told the people about Paul Marshall! I suppose that could have been the people's reason for the ukrainian revolution. And that could have made yet another möbius-strip of wrong way.

Then in 1974 my girlfriend May Kosberg wanted to show me her home and we went up in Oredalsĺsen and climbed up the long stairs. If it was the same place as in 1970, I dont know, but clearly it could have been. I think her father was home, he disappeared but came back again, as far as I remember, and we (May and me) stood there by a living-room dinner table. (When I think of it today, I associate with a similar table which the Gröver family had earlier, could be it was in Molde, but maybe this is an irrelevant association). We then went down the stairs again.

If there is a political intrigue on this brief story, and if there were some terror conducted at the same time, the purpose could of course have been to associate me with some such terror if it took place. e.g. around the time when I was there.

If so, this could mean that the overall political intrigue could want to say that 'John Grover must not be admitted to the/a student home' or 'to a student home for females' (due to mixmax on the high voltage lines with the address) etc. But that is of course to mix up things. I dont really know if this is a relevant observation.

If, therefore, the opposite conclusion then should be reached that, well, John Grover should not be rejected for such 'administrative' and mistaken reasons, that should not mean that I am interested in being put into some chemical 'Pflegeheim' - that would be sheer 'möbius' logic! There was a case of diplomatic misunderstanding in USA which I think preceded the knockdown of the old Elizabethspital up the street here.



In the school year 1970-71 I won (in 7th grade) a knowledge competition along with two schoolmate girls and I got the book "8 glass" by thriller author Alistair Maclean as a reward. This was not so many months after Celan had died. I recall Ragna Gröver telling in Molde at the end of the 60's that the form 'MAC' was prefixed to names in english (or was it scottish?) in the same way as 'SEN' was postfixed to names in norwegian. Was it at the bottom of 'Myragata' that she told it? Could be it was - I dont remember with certainty, but I think there was a mechanic workshop of some kind - could be a sort of garage - just on the corner to the rising street where she told it.

PS - I add the trivial observation that - of course - since these are good poets they could have come to hit upon the essential complex centuries before history came across them and this could be the explanation. I do not have any other information that could tell about such use of chinese poetry in this way than the poems themselves. And, of course, it need not be that I had hit upon just those poems that are in use - it could be that these are just the basic conceptual tools of their poetry and that it surfaces in many other of their poems as well.



Added on 3 february 2015:

The two friends from the end of the 70's with the most extremely interesting names were Anne Kristiansen and Bodil Stenseth. The following shows why I should mention their names after all. They are certainly born to the names and I have known them since almost 40 years ago and they are no new sudden inventions in the wake of the Donbas conflict - I don't think they are involved in the politics in any way. It is in the signs for 'qů' (end of line 1) and 'gé' (beginning of line 3) in the 'Nán chá' poem of Wang Wei. 'Qů' can be seen to look a little like 'Anne Kristiansen' (a different sort of cross) and 'gé' like 'Bodil Stenseth'. The sign 'gé' is this, here in (probably) old (Mathews) and new version:

The sign for 'gé' is composed of the so-to-speak german double S sign ß which looks like a B plus a sign which in the (probably) old system had a small 'X' inside and which in the new form looks more like a 'Y' (or a V). This change could correspond to the relation between the gender chromosomes of me and princess Diana, so to speak.

The new radical system of chinese with 188-189 radicals has the 'ß' as radical 27 when on the lefthand side of the sign, such as in this 'gé', and radical 28 when on the righthand side. It seems to be this difference between 27 and 28 which is contained in the Donbas conflict - as the 'radical' is breaking off from the main 'meaning group' in 'ukraina' on the right and not on the lefthand side. The name of Bodil Stenseth could be seen to be a proof that the role of Odilo Globocnik ('odil-B enseth-St' - 'glo bort' means 'to stare away' while 'enset' means 'sensed') was to prepare for the 'service revolution' with the Donbas conflict serving to denote the 'splitting off' of the radical on the righthand side in order to get to the 'semantic contents' of the sign contained inside the 'ukraina'. Had 'Donbas' been on the lefthand side it would have been radical 27 for this 'gé' - hence much 'service' interests could be related to 'Boston'. I have not been able to find out what the same sign with a ß on the righthand side could mean. There is a sign 'bi' which is not so very different - it means low, mean, vulgar, scornful etc. The sign 'gé' with the ß on the lefthand sign means 'to divide' but also 'to be remote' - and the 'qů' which looks a little like the Eiffel tower means to go, proceed, last year, as well as 'to be remote'. Could be the name of Anne Kristiansen could mean this 'different sort of eiffel-tower christian cross'.

Anne Sexton of Boston suicided (according to the official history) in a 'Cougar' car in 1974. 'Seksten' is norwegian for 'sixteen'. I was still 'minor' when I had met Anne Skundberg in the forest outskirts but (as far as I remember) 16 when (1973-74) I met her brother Olav and we went to the hotel at Askim or thereabout. I dont remember exactly when we went to the hotel but I think I must have been 16.

Gröver/'Mengele' smoked South State cigarettes throughout his life - that could of course have meant this 'South Hill' or 'Southern wonder' (Nan Cha) poem of Wang Wei.

The theory could be that Heinrich Himmler's SS could have meant this german letter 'ß' - could be for precisely this South Hill poem of Wang Wei for the future Donbas conflict. It is likely that the aim of this security project is to get all parts of social and cultural life under their control, including politics - that is, to control the politicians. That is likely to be the reason why so many politicians seem to believe that politics is the art of doing things whithout mentioning it explicitly. But politics abuses the democracy when they do not tell the public what is going on.

The nazis were national socialists - on the lefthand side, so to speak. If the SS is moved over to the righthand side, could be the new nazis are planned to be national conservatives - and then austrian paragraph 10 could mean that the new 'nazis' are obliged to liquidate those who are not 'conservative nazis'. See line 3 of Wang Wei's poem - if line 3 (ge pu wang ren jia) be taken to read 'repülögép'= hungarian for 'airplane' (by words 4-3-5-1-2 in the line), line 2 could read in a similar manner 'napilöbécs' = 'daily shooting in Vienna' (Vienna = Bécs in hungarian), or even 'sunny shooting in Vienna'. Hopefully not the function of the malaysian airplane disasters recently. That could be the function of the Donbas conflict - to prepare for a new Forster-Hitler after 2 may 2014. But then it is essential to be aware of this symbol 'gé' which proves that the new nazis are the old nazis, such as Odilo Globocnik was - not to speak of Heinrich Himmler with his SS. That was a real nazi.



Added on 11 february 2015:

The 'Nán chá' poem of Wang Wei could be of large importance for the political intrigue: The massacres on the parliaments in Nanterre 2002 and Zug (QU-GE) 2001 could be telling of it, and if 'Beit Scham' is the intermediate line, 'sheit Bam' could be the reason for the earthquakes of Bam 2003 and Banda Aceh 2004 ('han ha baesha' = 'sheit') - cp. the 'Lundikingus' which could be about the death of 'Martin Luther King' - and the ridiculous idea of me as 'heir to the throne'.





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